MSV: His Music and his times - Part 14: A new competitor



Illayaraja, who entered Tamil film music through 'Annakili' represents the biggest discontinuity in Indian Film Music thought. This may be difficult for people to accept. R D Burman or Rahman may come to your mind whenever people talk about a discontinuity. So let me put forth my hypothesis on why I consider Raja as a discontinuity and a break from our Indian film music tradition,

We have already seen how both Hindi film music and South Indian film music both depended on Classical music of North and South respectively in their formative years. One of the important features of Indian Classical music is the centrality of the singer / instrumentalist. There have been some great accompaniment artist but even they are subservient to the main artist. This spills over into film music as well and for long the tune and the singer were of importance. The music director was basically a person who could set some wonderful tunes. They did not expect the music director to be well versed in orchestration. Orchestration was left to assistants. (Anil Biswas talks about one such talented assistant of his. It is also well known the Pugazhendi did most of the orchestration for K V Mahadevan). This meant that the major musical ideas resided in the tune and hence the singer of paramount importance. That is why we had singers who dominated their industry pushing even the music directors to shade. Lata dominated Hindi film industry, Gantasala dominated Telugu film industry and Jesudas was the king of Malayalam film song. Even when R D Burman arrived and the orchestration got a new fillip, the tune and rhythm were still the king. Kishore's and Asha's voices were central to R D Burman's songs. I want to look at this phenomenon from a different angle and say that all the music directors gave their best musical ideas to the song (which ofcourse includes the rhythm of the song). The ideas embedded in the orchestration were limited. Secondly we can say that in true Indian music tradition, the orchestration was present to 'support' the tune and hence it was enmeshed with the tune.

Raja's thought was different. His idea of a song was more akin the idea of symphony of western classical music. No, I am not suggesting that Raja's songs are symphonies or some such. Just that Raja's conception of a film song closely mirrored the ideas of western classical music. If you listen to a symphony you will notice that while there is a central melody, the symphony is not just the melody. There are multiple harmonic strains either running in parallel with the melody or supplementing the melody. None of the threads can be discarded without affecting the overall effect. In essence, in the symphony there was no central instrument. Everyone had a part to play: some more and some less, but it was just a part. No one was the pillar. Second, the symphony was  viewed as an organic whole. In the sense that musical ideas were spread throughout the symphony unlike Indian music where the ideas were more in the tune. Raja thought of his song as an organic whole while many of us thought of it as tune and orchestration. In Raja's songs the ideas were spread throughout of the song and the quality of ideas for the orchestration was in no way inferior to the quality of ideas embedded in the tune.

Let me illustrate this with a MSV song and a Raja song. Both are duets, both are melodies, both were released around the same time and both are nice to hear but their overall approach is very different.

Here is 'gangai yamunai' from 'Imayam'



Here us 'mayile mayile' from 'Kadvul Amaitha Medai'



I will not dissect this but try thinking this way; If you remove the orchestration from 'gangai yamunai' how much do you lose? How much do you lose in 'mayile mayile'?

This Western Classical music line of thinking also meant that every instrument and voice had its place in the song and the place was fixed. Which meant that no one, including the lead singers, was allowed to do anything of their own. They had to do exactly what was written for them. Nothing more, nothing less. This was because Raja was weaving an intricate tapestry and every thread had a particular role to play in the design and the dependence of the pattern of each thread on other was so tight that even a small deviation of one thread could destroy the whole pattern. So spontaneity of instrumentalists or singers was out of question in this approach. What the approach lost in terms of this spontaneity it more than gained by the complex pattern it wove and by the extraordinary precision this approach gave rise to. Again we will look at two distinct songs to understand this difference.

Here is the famous 'engeyum eppodhum' from 'Nanithale Inikkum'



A similar club song from the Telugu movie 'Yugandhar', 'naa paruvam'



If you listen carefully you can clearly hear the sort of independence the instrumentalists get in the MSV song as well as the liberty SPB gets. In Raja's Telugu song everything is regimented including the pauses. Also observe the ideas inherent in the interludes. In MSV's case the ideas are fairly simple with the 'aadu paambe' being the theme and other ideas being brought it but they don't really form a complete whole. In Raja's song you will observe one idea following the other and everything together forming an unified whole.

The other important change that Raja brought in was the multitude of genres with their authenticity intact. Not only in Tamil film music but also in other languages, the film songs remained film songs and when a music director had to give a folk song he would generally mask his own standard song as a folk song or bring in a folk song directly which will not have this stamp. Ofcourse exceptions like 'thazhayam poo mudichi' exist but overall whenever the music director was asked to give a song in a genre he was not familiar with, then the way out was either to borrow directly from that particular genre or to change some orchestration bits to make it sound like it was in another genre while actually song would be standard Indian film song. The deep understanding of each genre and his ability to construct songs keeping the grammar of that genre intact and yet leaving his stamp on the song was something not done on such a scale as what Raja did. Neither by music director before him or later.

In that way Raja represent a big discontinuity in Indian film music. (After him, Indian film music went a different track, but not forward, musically, which we will not discuss here.)

What I have said till now was not realized by anyone when Raja entered the scene. No one: neither the music critics nor the music lovers understood this. I must confess neither did I and whatever I write now was not the opinion that I held when Raja appeared on the scene. An opinion that majority held when Raja appeared was that this man knew his folk songs and could mix some western elements into his folk songs. Or that he was good at orchestration. No one understood that Raja's musical thought in its entirety.  The reason why I wrote so much about Raja was to highlight the enormity of the challenge that MSV faced. By trivializing that challenge, we would be doing injustice to both of them.

Raja had great respect for MSV but his musical thought was diametrically opposite to that of MSV (and to that most Indian music directors). MSV was a tunesmith, the tune was central to his song. He believed in giving freedom to his instrumentalists and singers, his tunes were simple, he believed in the power of lyrics, his orchestration was a bit hazy. Raja on the other hand saw the tune as just one part of a whole, not as the only important part. Neither singers nor musicians had any freedom. They had to play their part and no improvisation was allowed. His tunes were complex. Raja believed that the tune should convey the intended emotion. The lyrics were secondary. (He has never stated that but this is my conclusion based on my observations). So this must have been a clash of opposites but it was not seen as such initially.

The impact of MSV's music on Tamil films was so high that Raja had no choice but to structure some of his initial songs in the MSV mold, especially when he had to tune for Sivaji's films. It is not surprising that everyone thought that Raja was a sort of successor to MSV because he could tune like MSV. This song for example is put in the MSV basket by many people. 'sindhu nadhikarai oram' from 'Naladhoru Kudumbam'



The orchestration is typical Raja but the tune is MSVish.

Or this song, 'anthapurathil oru maharani' from 'Deepam'. One can discern the MSV 'touch' in the tune.



Or this song, 'endhan pon vanname' from 'Naan Vaazha Vaippen'



Such was MSV's grip on Tamil film music that for Sivaji's films and probably for the films of older directors Raja had to give music which had the flavor of the day while he could experiment more with the film of new comers. In essence Raja's entry was not dramatic nor did he replace MSV immediately. Raja's ascend was a slow process and happened over a period of time. In this period MSV kept giving music for a lot of movies. In the next episode we will talk about the music of MSV after Raja's entry into the scene.

(To check out the real Raja from the MSVish Raja you may want to hear this song, 'thirutheril varum silaiyo' from the same movie, 'Naan Vaazhavaipen'

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Comments

ravinat said…
Suresh

Good observations about the Raja music methodology. I think you are mixing up western harmony and symphony. If you consider the rules of symphony, 99% of Raja's work will not qualify. Raja has been using electronic synthesizers for a very long time and that alone will disqualify his work as being called symphonic.

You have otherwise described his orchestral work fairly accurately. The only part I would like to add is that with the exception of a few purely Carnatic pieces (example, Ivann), Raja does 4-part harmonic score (SATB) for every piece of music. he composes.No other Indian composer I know of does that, and he is very disciplined about it.

To this date, I keep wondering about many of his semi-classical songs on how he would have written the 4-part score.. Example, Poo Maalai Vaangi from Sindhu Bhairavi has all its vocal parts in Kanada while if you observe the second interlude, he harmonizes it without any difficulty.

I have reached out to some of his musicians and I have not got a convincing answer on how he does that SATB to an Indian raga. Somebody needs to get under the covers and uncover this inimitable style. While I see some of today's composers trying to do this in some compositions, Raja does it as a matter of habit and has never talked too much about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAlryz7Jl2Q

Listen ( only listen pls…becaz your bête noire KRV is fully occupying the screen space ) to this song of GKV which came in 1971 . The Guitar strumming , the Violin structure, the chords, the mini pause before the flute interlude …..One will be tempted to say that during the mid –late 70s, such style was present in IR’s orchestration !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCpQUgKU4YI

Also listen to this , especially the interludes …they are all typical of Raja of the 70s ..

I am more tempted to say that he was more on the GKV mould ?

Suresh S said…
Ravi,

Fair enough. As I said I am not talking of symphony in that sense at all here. All I meant was that a) each movement of symphony is an organic whole b) No one instrument is generally more important than other in that art form. I meant symphony only at that broad level and not at the grammar level.

I did not want to get too much into Raja for obvious reasons Smile Analysing Raja that deeply is beyond me.
Suresh S said…
Balaji,

You are on spot there.

I have heard many say and SPB is on record (in the Telugu program 'Padutha Theeyaga' - I am unable to get the link) that Raja did most of the orchestration for GKV in late 60s / early 70s. So what you hear as GKV is actually Raja according to SPB. He quoted two songs in that program. One was the very popular Telugu song 'ravi varmake', saying that it was actually composed by Raja and not by GKV. You can listen to the song here. (I think the song was originally in Kannada)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5oQG9IAz-Y

(Especially that flute bit the interlude gives away Raja)

SPB then quoted another song and said the whole orchestration of the song was by Raja, especially the guitar bits. This was that song. Lovely one sung by SPB:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKbMtYCFl6M

(Check out the heroine in this song :) )



Ravi said…
Dear Suresh: You have given a fresh perspective on Raja's songs. Although my limited musical acumen does not permit me to fully appreciate your point of view, it certainly gives one a handle to look at Raja's songs beyond the aural pleasure they invariably give.
Regarding "Gangai Yamunai" vs "Mayile Mayile", I will answer your question obliquely. I would not mind listening to both songs without the preludes or interludes. Because both are very nice melodies. I would love to listen to just the preludes or interludes of Mayile.(This would in fact apply to most songs of Raja.) I cannot probably say the same for Gangai yamunai!

Regarding Ninaithale Inikkum vs the Telugu song of Raja: I think the point about MSV giving liberties to singers and instrumentalists is overstated. Also, I cannot see how by listening to "Engeyum..", one can say that SPB or the orchestra were given liberties. I recall an interview of yesteryear singer Jamuna Rani several years back. While recollecting her experience in singing for MSV-TKR, she pointedly mentioned that they would discourage improvisations by singers and would bluntly tell them that it is enough if they sing as instructed. On another occasion, I recall (Shankar) Ganesh, who worked as an assistant for MSV, mentioning his experience during re-recording: That MSV would not rest until he had extracted from the musicians exactly what he wanted right up to the last note. MSV himself has remarked that, on occasion, he had allowed singers to improvise if he felt that added value to the song but added that he would not hesitate to rein in the singer if he/she was overdoing it.
I feel that the statement that MSV's tunes were simple is a vast oversimplification. Strangely, his latter day songs have received flak in many blogs as being complex and hence not as elegant as the Hindi film songs of the day!!
You have referred to MSV's importance to lyrics. I would go so far as to say that if the tune was king for MSV, the lyric was the queen. He excelled in composing tunes for pre-written lyrics. This is one of the reasons we have such outstanding songs as "Ezhu Swarangal" where Kannadasan could give a free rein to his imagination. MSV not only had to provide the tunes but had the added constraint that it had to be appear to be fit to be sung in a Classical concert. His genius is evident in the final output.
Ravi
ravi said…
Mr. Vamanan in his blog has stated clearly that MSV, unlike other music directors of his times, always composed the interludes for his songs himself and thta he did it right at the time of recording. Mr. SP Muthuraman also commented in an interview how for the BGM of the scenes in the movie, MSV would assemble the required orchestra and compose the BGMs on his harmonium.
Ravi
Mellomaniac said…
I appreciate the efforts you have put in writing such a detailed posts. I respectfully disagree with many points you have mentioned about MSV. For eg: Your comments about his orchestration arrangements, RD Burman's Influence, the whole comparison with Raaja and so on. It's your perceptive and your views. You have all rights to write your own views on MSV. Though you mentioned some songs of Raaja which has "MSVish" tunes, you could have also mentioned some songs where Raaja took clear inspiration/imitation from MSV just like how you did for Rahman. You mentioned the song by Rahaman in Pukar inspired from "Kallellam Maanika" but why not the song "Inga Naan Kanden" from Saadhanai which is clear inspiration of the same song. "Laali Laali" line from the song "Varam Thandha Saamiku" is another clear inspiration of the line "En Pirandhai Magane". You can check the notes of both songs and see it for yourself. There plenty of songs which is clearly inspired from MSV which Raaja himself has admitted but why none of them is mentioned here?! Again it's your writing and your views but all I expect his fair and unbiased comparisons. Though I like and respect R.D.B, he is known for his plagiarism. How can you compare him with MSV? I'm not saying that MSV has never copied in his career. Look at the number of songs copied by other composers of his time. There was a time that most of Hindi songs are merely dubbed in Tamil movies. It was completely changed in MSV's times. Again the due credits should be given to other composers like K.V.Mahadevan, G. Ramanadhan, and more but it was MSV who took a stand that he will not use Hindi tunes in Tamil songs. You can find MSV's conversation with Mr. S.S.Vasan in this regard in his books. Due credit should be given to TKR too. How MSV changed broke this habit of using Hindi songs? He made Hindi composers use his songs in their movies without giving proper credits to him. The movie "Rishte Naate" which is a remake of the tamil movie "Karpagam". Madan Mohan used pallavi of "Athaiyadi Methaiyadi" in the song "Ari Neendiya Ki Pari". No credits was given. There are so many instances like this which MSV never bragged anywhere.
Mellomaniac said…
Whenever MSV worked on Hindi remakes, he never used any of the Hindi songs. You mentioned the song from the Telugu Movie "Yugandhar" which is remake of the "Don". It was Ilayaraaja's first Telugu Movie. Compare the songs of "Billa" and "Yugandhaar". You can clearly see how MSV stands out from the Hindi tunes and given a completely different approach to his songs. Raaja used the tune of "Khaike Pan Banaraswala" from the original for the song "orrabbaa Vesukunnaa Killii" but MSV gave a new different much better tune to suit tamil audience "Vethalaya Pottendi". Why not mention this?! Even compare "Naa Kosame" and "My Name is Billa". MSV's approach is entirely different not at all inspired by the Hindi version. Why he was not given proper credits for his innovations and efforts? You mentioned about the song "Naa Paruvam Nee Kosam" which is for the song "Yeh Mere Dil" from the Don. You compare it with "Ninathale Inikum Sugame" from the Billa. Both are same situation. Though Raaja's song is excellent but it really sounds like a "Disco Song" as you rightly mentioned but its not supposed be a disco song in the movie. Listen to MSV's song, it has that flavor of vengeance and ferocity of the girl in the tune and such a great orchestration for which MSV was never duly credited. Listen to the song "Kaa...Karupannukum" from Dasavatharam and compare the notes and progressions of "Ninaithale Inikum Sugame" and see for yourself how it is similar and clearly inspired. I love Ilayaraaja and I'm one of his fans who love his music so much. I appreciate Raaja for all the things he had done but MSV was never properly credited for his achievements especially his orchestration arrangements.

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