MSV : His Music and his times - Part 17: His legacy



In this final part let us examine the legacy of MSV.

First, along with Ramamurthy, he was instrumental in modernizing Tamil film music. We have discussed a lot about this earlier. Later, MSV kept changing his style to suit the modern trends. In the 60s we saw how he embraced a more western style of orchestration. Later there was a slight change in style to take on the Hindi influence which was seeping into Tamil film music. As I had earlier indicated, MSV was probably the only one who was able to challenge the Hindi invasion. (Though I call it invasion, I personally feel that any good music coming from anywhere is fine.) He did his bit to give hit songs during those times and partially succeeded.

His most important contribution to Tamil film music were ofcourse his melodies and the impact they left of the listening public. Not only on the listening public, they also had an impact of the MDs who followed MSV. We have already seen how Raja had to tune many songs in the MSV mold in his initial days. Such was the influence of MSV's sound that almost all producers / directors felt that any good Tamil song should have the MSV sound.

More than Raja, it was Rahman who was influenced by MSV's melodies. While Raja did tunes which resembled MSV's tunes outwardly, he was consciously moving away from MSV's style and the soul of Raja's music was far away from that MSV. We have seen this in an earlier post on how the musical philosophies of Raja and MSV were poles apart. Rahman's musical philosophy, on the other hand, was closer to that of MSV. Let me try and explain this via a few examples.

Here is what I wrote about Rahman's entry in a different forum. "The second dramatic break was that of Rahman from Raja. As I said, Rahman approached music differently. He got in many of the pop music ideas into TFM. He got some outstanding recording equipment. Very catch rhythm loops started coming in, the melody was suitably simple, keeping with the pop style requirement, new voices came in and crystal clear sound was heard. The richness of orchestra of Raja gave way to synthesized sounds, the complex harmonies gave way to simple ones. The effect was opposite to that of Raja. The break was definitely dramatic and disruptive."  (You can read the whole thread here: http://ilayaraja.forumms.net/t116p75-why-ir-is-not-simply-someone-between-msv-time-arr-time )

In the initial years Rahman used different song structures. One of them was that of a song suddenly reaching a crescendo, as in 'nadhiye nee aanal' in 'pudhu vellai mazhai song'. He also had a different structure for the pop rhythm based songs like 'mukkala muqabula', 'oorvasi oorvasi'. It was in the soft melodies that we can see MSV's influence on him. You can see the influence in two aspects of his style wrt his melodies: the song structure and the way he approached a raga. Both of them had the MSV influence.

Let me start with simplicity of the song structure. I had already spoken about the simple structures of both Vishwanathan Ramamurthy and later of MSV. (I am not saying simple is easy. Nor am I saying that simple is not good. It was an aspect of their style.) Here is one of the songs.

Here is 'mampazhaththu vandu' from 'Sumaithangi'



Here is the song which launched Rahman



Concentrate only on the way the tune flows and you will find both of them being very simple in their structures. The way the charanam flows is like a river flowing in the plains. No major twists and turns. A sort of straight line approach and a gentle joining with the pallavi. Ofcourse Rahman brings in his own rhythm and soundscape to this song but the way the tune flows is more like a MSV tune.

Or take this song which was a super hit. 'margazhi poove' from 'May Madham'. Once again the soundscape is typical Rahman but if you concentrate only on the tune, you can fins the simplicity of MSV -TKR. You can observe the simplicity of tune in the pallavi as well as the charanam



Or you may want to listen to this song which was also a mega hit those days and once again check out how the pallavi and charanam flow.



To give you an idea of a complex tune, here is 'siru ponmani asaiyum' from 'Kallukkul Eeram', a 1980 movie. Music by Illayaraja. This is more like a river rolling down a mountain slope. You don't know where it will jump next. The pallavi itself is such a great treat of complexity.



The next aspect of Rahman was the way he approached ragas. His approach was more closer to MSV's approach and you can see that clearly in some cases.

Here is Rahman's Mayamalavagowla from the Hindi movie, 'Pukar', 'sunta hai mera khuda'



The soundscape is Rahman's alright but the Mayamalavagowla soul of this song derives from this song of Vishwanathan Ramamurthy, 'kallelam maanikka kallagumaa'



There is a Telugu singing reality show called 'Padutha Theeyaga' for which SPB is the judge. In one of the episodes, when a participant sang 'malargale malargale' from 'Love Birds' SPB sang 'ilakkanam maarudho' and pointed out how the ending of the pallavi can easily merge with 'malargale malargale'. Listen to both of the songs and decide for yourself.

Here is 'malargale malargale' from 'Love Birds'



Here is 'ilakkanam maarudho' from 'Nizhal Nijamagiradhu'



There are some songs of Rahman who affinity is instantly discernible from the pallavi itself. Like the 'enna vilai azhage' pallavi sounding very similar to 'thanga padhakathin mele'.



Or 'roja roja' from the same film, 'Kadhalar Desam' sounding close to 'enmanadhai nee ariya naan koduthen' line of 'Sippi Irukkudhu' song.

Rahman himself has admitted that MSV and KVM were big influences on him. Later ofcourse Rahman went on to try 'structureless' songs with varying degree of success. I was talking mostly about his initial 5 to 6 years in Tamil films and I feel that many of his melodies have MSV influence.

(Edit: I also need to point out that the musical thinking of early Rahman was also very similar to MSV. Rahman believed in giving freedom to his singers and instrumentalists, his interludes were not fully integrated with the melody and many of his tunes were simple in structure. Like MSV who had the genius of Kannadasan with him, Rahman benefited a lot due to his association with Vairamuthu in his early days.)

Thus MSV was able to influence a generation beyond the Raja generation. The remix generation is keeping MSV's legacy alive now . (MSV hated remixes though)

The other important contribution of MSV to Tamil film music are the singers that he groomed. It is well known that L R Eswari owes everything to MSV. Later MSV groomed SPB, Jesudes and Vani Jayaram, all three who can be considered all time greats of Tamil film music. He gave them great songs and ensured they improved on their craft. He used to sing the song when he taught them and each one of them says that it was almost impossible to reproduce the sangathis that he sang. This was a great contribution of MSV. By the way, he also introduced Malaysia Vasudevan and Swarnalatha though both their achievements are more with Raja. Similarly he gave a good number of songs to Jeyachandran as well.

MSV's tunes were such that even popular music directors from other languages respected him a lot. SPB says that Naushad was a great fan of MSV and would buy any record that came out with MSV's music. Raveendran Master, the famous Malayalam music director, tells how he was inspired by 'malarndhum malaradha' song. The Malayalam and Telugu film industry had great regard for him.

The main legacy of MSV would be that for a couple of generation his music is what made their memories. Along with memories he has left behind a huge treasure of tunes for the future generations to enjoy. He has an everlasting place in the list of great artists of Tamilnadu.


Comments

ravi said…
Dear Suresh: A fitting tribute to a great Master of Melodies!!! I was eagerly awaiting the final piece to see its tone. I am pleasantly surprised to see it more of an eulogy than a critique. The struggles, weaknesses and criticisms have been left to the earlier essays where they rightly belong. Here you have highlighted his positives and the rich legacy he has left behind. The whole series is an indication of head and heart functioning in harmony. My heartfelt thanks.
But do not be surprised to see my comments again even in many of your earlier articles in this series. When I read them first, it is like a hungry man finding food after a long time. I often find myself going back to savour the finer points.
Best
Ravi
Suresh S said…
Thanks Ravi.

Since I titled the article as legacy, I did not want to make it a summation. Hence I did not go back to do a balancing act between the good and bad. Anyway what remains will be the good and hence it is probably fitting to conclude this way.

I am really grateful to people like you, Balaji and lots of friends from Twitter and an Illayaraja group for following this series closely. It is always a pleasure to get some feedback from musical inclined friends and both you and Balaji have provided lot of information, which I am sure all MSV fans would have cherished. Please do comment whenever you want to. It will be a pleasure discussing music with you.
Suresh S said…
My Father in law is an ardent MSV fan and has been following this series regularly. After the conclusion of this series, this is what he wrote to me.

"Dear Suresh,

After having gone through all your articles I congratulate you on writing a detailed and illustrative study of the late MSV and his music. You have traced his ascent from his humble begining to the pinnacle of film music where he reigned for well over two decades. Your conclusions are well founded and show a deep knowledge of both classical and filmy music.Comparisons with the music directors of the times in Hindi, Tamil, Telugu and Malayalam are done without any bias.

That the reign of MSV was embellished by the genius of Kaviyarasu Kannadasan, the inheritor of the mantle from Mahakavi Bharathi, and the golden, timeless voices of TMS, Susheela, PBS and Janaki to name a few, is again an inescapable conclusion. A sparkling diamond needs a gold setting; A Kalidasa needed King Bojaraja and a Tenaliraman, King Krishnadevarayar. So are Kannadasan and MSV.

For me, music is to be listened to. Close your eyes and let the music pervade your soul. You are in an entirely blissful world of your own. No foul thoughts; no hindrances at all.

MSV. Rightly the synonym should stand for MELLISAI SASTHRA VISWA-NADHAM. We, born in the forties / fifties of the 20th century, during our schooling used to listen to hindi songs on the radio. The credit for bringing us to listen to Tamil songs largely goes to MSV.

That everything on this earth goes on changing is an eternal truth. So with MSV. The advent of Ilayaraja and the change in the tastes of the public started the decline of MSV as pointed out by you.

A great analysis of MSV and his times, I am reminded of P.B.Shelley's elegy on John Keats. I quote:

The one remains, the many change and pass,
Heaven's light forever shines, earth's shadows fly
Life, like a dome of many coloured glass
Stains the white radiance of Eternity

You have given MSV a fitting memoir, which mainline print media did not; they stopped with the customory euologies.

Thanks for giving me material for thought.
Yours,
Murali"
Dear Suresh,

An emotional journey for me personally and honestly, I rate your articles as the most befitting to the Little Master, Melody Synonym Viswanathan !

You had started with a rider …on the 50s-60s but your assessment of the trend prevailed then is spot on… Like you, me also by the time I started gaining some musical knowledge, the MSV era had ended effectively and I was left to online listening of his later songs like Nitham nitham en kannodu , Kanaa kaanum kangal, Nee varuvaai ena naan, Ninaye radhi endru , Vendum vendum, Unakken mele nindrai , en peyare enakku marandhu pona ……..

Indeed it was a learning curve for me on how to analyse one’s music . I have seen many articles and anecdotes eulogizing MSV but this series is unique and outstanding in the sense it has covered his entire journey in a sequential manner , the way he had travelled in his musical career and along with you , we also had a memorable visit back to the 50s-60s-70s till the early 80s .

Those comparisons between HFM and TFM, pick of the songs from each phase ….

Each part was intriguing and informative . What I liked the most was the analysis on the 50s trend , the structure of song composing style ( GR in particular ) and the gradual shift in the early 60s . Its like a virtual session with MSV himself and he narrating on how he had worked out patiently on a methodical swing to the next generation. The untimely demise of GR during the early 60s also could be sone significant factor . Else, we would have witnessed a good amount of GR compositions in western format too as he had all that ingredients to produce such quality - Katru veliyidai kannamma – more like a MSV-TKR melody by given early by GR ! ..He could also give Inbam pongum vennilaa for VPKattabomman , a style similar to SM.Subbaiah Naidu !. While Ulavum thendral katrinile had the typical GRish note oscillations , I would put it on light music genre ..So also Vaaraai nee vaarai !
On trend change in the early 60s, few credits may be offered to A.M.Raja for songs in Then nilavu, Kalathur Kannamma, Kalayana parisu, Amara Deepam - all being Sridhar movies !
And there was a bit of Madanmohan too for Vanji kottai valiban …who will forget Raja Magal and Kannum kannum kalandhu ! and songs from Parthiban kanavu – surprisingly , its Veda , known for HFM lifts !

You have also mentioned on the grooming aspect of MSV – SPB, LRE, KJY, VJ ….. A very good point indeed ! I wish to add PBS too though it was not grooming but a great platform for the honey soaked voice of PBS to blossom during the entire 60s …it was MSV who could give wonderful songs till Nilave ennidum … MSV’s ability to pick the right singer for a given song situation was exceptional …one such is Ulagin mudhal isai ( Thava pudhalvan ) where he asks PBS to do the Hindustani part !

SJanaki was given some outstanding songs ...but we all know when her career peaked ..

On MSV’s legacy - I think you have consciously chosen IR and ARR , being 2 greats of the modern era who were instrumental in taking film music to another level …

As you had rightly mentioned, during that phase, the composing style , the tune was so MSV all pervading that composers then had to follow a path ….even guys like Shankar Ganesh, V.Kumar ( to a larger extent ), Govarthanam, Chandrabose , Deva ….all these had the MSV influence …. Now this also proves very clearly that how Raja is different ( which again you had written an exclusive part ) and how he could sustain for 2 + decades …again, for ARR to make a difference, he had to something unique to emerge out of Raja’s hold on TFM…

Like Ravi, I am also browsing frequently between the 17 episodes and will be posting my thoughts there…pls bear with me…

All good things will come to end ….it is said … So also your series ….

Now, I have a request ….who else but , Its all about Raja .. We grew along with his music … It will be an enthralling series ….Pls explore ….
Suresh S said…
Thanks Balaji for the kind words. I can unhesitatingly say that your comments have enriched the blog. It has been a pleasure interacting with you and Ravi. Also the final summation of yours is very good. I must thank you for both reading the blog and posting some amazing comments. As I told Ravi, it is always a pleasure interacting with people who love and know their music.

Reg the singers, I had already mentioned about TMS, PS and PBS in my Vishwanathan Ramamurthy summation so I added only the later day singers. I would say that almost all the legendary singers with the exception of Janaki, owe a lot to MSV.

You can comment whenever you want. It will great to read and respond to your comments.

"Now, I have a request ….who else but , Its all about Raja .. We grew along with his music … It will be an enthralling series ….Pls explore …." Ha Ha Ha. This ofcourse is an almost impossible task given the vastness of Raja's oeuvre. BTW, if you are interested I had earlier written a series of articles on Raja's post 1994 songs i my other blog, When you get time, you can check this : https://onlyraja.wordpress.com/2012/08/07/initial-writeup/
Suresh S said…
Balaji,

This is the link to an initial set of articles dealing with some unknown songs of Raja circa 1994: https://onlyraja.wordpress.com/2012/08/
Jujubax said…
Hi Suresh
Thanks for coming out with MSV compendium
I loved the series in full.
regards
madhu
Suresh S said…
A comment from my Father in law:

"dear Suresh,

i read with interest the review of your articles on MSV by Ravi and Balaji. They appear to have followed your essays closely and in depth. It reflects their deep love for quality music . It is heartening to note that there are avid music lovers in the young generation who will be able to pass on the baton to their successors. May your tribe increase.

Yours,
Murali
Hi Suresh,

Revisiting after a year ! On inspirations from MSV's creations, one may think of Poo malarndhida nadamidum pon mayile.... with Madhavi pon mayilal ( MPM ) ...both being Karahapriya scale and also the Madhavi bharatanatyam which must have made IR to think of MPM .... Another classic which might have influenced IR may be Nenjam marappadhillai ...with Vaanuyarndha solayile ... There may be few more ..
For a typical love duet or solo, one need not get influenced. However when it comes to a situational song creation, invariably the Composer's thought process involuntarily goes back to an old song which would have created deep impact.
Thenpaandi cheemayile's start notes and Malarndhu malaraadha are one such..both being lullaby, one naturally gets lured to such beauties...
Suresh S said…
Raja had mentioned in a Telugu CD release program how he was inspired by one MSV song. Forgot which song. Will link the video if I get hold of it.
Ravi said…
Hi Suresh: While simplicity was a hallmark of MSV-TKR tunes, the same cannot be said of MSV's tunes after the split. In fact, many of his songs in the early/mid 70's had a layered structure, at least so it looks to layperson like me. Songs that immediately come to my mind: Neela nayanagalil, Ponukkenna Azhagu, kaadhal saritthirathai (from Dr. Siva) etc. You mentioned about Raja's "Siru ponmani". Songs such as "mana medayil", Chitthirai maatham", kannil therigindra vanam, Thotta Idam ellam (Idaya kani) also, it appear to me have a change of pace, tone within just the pallavi although I am not qualified to comment on how they stand in relation to Raja's innovations. In a recent video demonstration, Ramesh Vinayagam points out the tonal/modal shifts in "paal Polave" from Uyarntha manithan and even how a raga shift such as in "Mutthukkalo kangal" fits into a seamless whole. In my opinion, the hall mark of MSV's composing ability is his ability to keep the integrity of the melody and structure in songs such as "Antha naal nyabagam", "Sakka podu", "Deivame", "Junior", Kadavul amaitha medai which have dialogues etc. interspersed within the song. A crowning instance is how he integrates the reading of the marriage invitation and the proceedings of the marriage (starting from "Kaathala mella kaal partthu nadanthu vara") into the song. And yet the song simply flows as a single river. In my opinion, the song situation and lyrics dictated MSV's compositions unconstrained by ragas, song structure, genres etc.
Ravi
kaveinthran said…
hi, a very good post, will be wonderful if you can do a write up on the rise and fall of raja after Rahman, as no people have done that deep endeavour
V Raghavan said…
Hi Suresh
I chanced upon our blogs on the musical saga of the great legendary MSV and found them excellent reading. You have made an exhaustive and balanced analysis of the musical journey of MSV. It is noteworthy that you have clearly laid bare the distinct difference between the music of Viswanathan-Ramamurthy and MSV and articulated the role of T K Ramamurthy in the making of the musical combination.
However, I would like to point out that you have not adequately discussed the formative years of Viswanathan-Ramamurthy between 1952 to 1960. Both of them were mentored by C R Subbaraman and they carried forward his legacy and style.In fact there are gems of songs in their films like Jaya Gopi, Sugam Enge, Thalai Koduthan Thambi, Pudaiyal, Padi Bhakthi, Mahadevi, Mannadi Mannan, Aalukkoru Veedu, Kavalai Illada Manithan, Amudhavalli, Manappandal etc. In these songs, the distinct melody and orchestration typical of VR is discernible in contrast to the music of G Ramanathan or KVM. You can find the touch and influence of CRS for whom they were successors. No doubt, these songs catapulted them to the glorious days of 1961-65.
Overall, It was my pleasure in reading your blogs! Congratulations!
V Raghavan said…
Please read as "your blogs" instead of "our blogs" in line 1
Raghavan
Suresh S said…
Thanks Raghavan.

I get your point. To be honest I do not have good knowledge of the CR Subbaraman, G Ramanathan, S V Venkatraman era to bring out the nuances you mention. That is why I started for the 60s.

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